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Session Start: Wed Mar 04 20:01:48 2009
Session Ident: #techbytes
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[20:01] <bcanon> Hey yivit
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[20:01] <Donovan> and i'm just some guy in irc
[20:01] <Yivit> howdy
[20:01] <bcanon> Hey all
[20:02] <Tex_Arcana> You can carbon date me by my 300 baud modem too.
[20:02] <Donovan> ooh, i want it, so i can fit in at work, jay
[20:02] <Donovan> that too, i'm sure it's buried in the strata of your office
[20:02] <Tex_Arcana> Hey Barrett
[20:02] * Anonymous is now known as OldMike
[20:02] <VidocRazor> Carbon date = Atomic Cafe BBS username?
[20:02] <USSROVER> Tex aqustic <sp> handset modem ??
[20:03] <OldMike> OldMike and Mister Tecate as usual bid you all good evening.
[20:03] <VidocRazor> Sorry, best carbon date is the Tweet that Dwight sent out this week - PHP Dungeon (Zork) Mod
[20:03] <Tex_Arcana> No it plugged directly into my C64.
[20:03] <OldMike> Atomic Cafe, is that out there somewhere on the net ?
[20:03] <VidocRazor> Nope - Atomic Cafe was before the system of Tubes known as the net...
[20:03] <VidocRazor> :P
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[20:04] <OldMike> Atomic cafe was so kinda flick
[20:04] <grep> nick
[20:04] <USSROVER> old Mike yepper http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=atomic+cafe&aq=2&oq=Atomic+c
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[20:05] <OldMike> Gonna check USS
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[20:06] <grepme> much better no more flashing
[20:06] <Xx86> Dwight was with Leo laport
[20:07] <OldMike> Thanks Rover. Any news about Andy ?
[20:07] <VidocRazor> I dont know the voices yet - who is talking now?
[20:07] <USSROVER> 10 more mins and my job is DONE !!! IDTENT User :)
[20:08] <grepme> i feel ya
[20:08] <USSROVER> they don't listen to me
[20:08] <grepme> I installed XP on a xen server for a dev group
[20:08] <OldMike> Linux question kids: Do I need to be in a CSH console to open an sh file ?
[20:08] <Th_Dctr> They are like children. They listen but don't pay attention.
[20:08] <grepme> csh is a shell
[20:09] <USSROVER> I think so
[20:09] <grepme> you need a terminal perhaps, but not nessicarily csh
[20:09] <OldMike> I got a cad program that downloaded as a sh file and I can't get it to run.
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[20:09] <Th_Dctr> You might be able to go into properties and change the permission to run it.
[20:09] <USSROVER> terminal mode ( like the Dos Prompt) for linux
[20:09] <Th_Dctr> I do that all the time.
[20:10] <grepme> i personally do not like csh
[20:10] <VidocRazor> If you are in a shell Mike, permissions can often be the problem - check to make sure execute is set
[20:10] <Donovan> what cad program?
[20:10] <grepme> sh/bash is fine
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[20:10] <USSROVER> if you can type sudo (command) it will ask for ROOT password before command runs
[20:10] <bcanon> OldMike: Nope - bash2 is fine
[20:10] <OldMike> I have been in a root and user terminal and can't get the right path to bring up the file. No matter what I try.
[20:10] <bcanon> sh filename.sh to give it a spin
[20:10] <Big50> Greetings All
[20:10] <grepme> USSROVER don't lie
[20:10] <grepme> sudo asks for the user pass
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[20:11] <USSROVER> I'm running UBUNTU this machine
[20:11] <OldMike> Just "sh" before the file bc ?
[20:11] <grepme> OldMike - if you are on a recent linux, try locate filename
[20:11] <bcanon> More or less.
[20:11] <bcanon> Don't do it as root
[20:11] <OldMike> More or less ?
[20:11] <VidocRazor> *agrees with bcanon*
[20:11] <bcanon> And if it doesn't work, do a chmod +x fileName and then give it another go
[20:11] <grepme> yeah apple
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[20:12] <VidocRazor> Running as root is bad, bad habit... evil.. yeck.. phooey
[20:12] <grepme> new imacs and they are cheaper
[20:12] <OldMike> Find file finds it but nothing in the terminal does.
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[20:12] <grepme> OldMike -- the locate command will work for that
[20:12] <OldMike> Is the chmod + x on the same file line, at the beginning I mean ?
[20:13] <Donovan> they just copied the cad files from the previous version?
[20:13] <OldMike> Correct D
[20:13] <OldMike> Tell me more about the locate command g
[20:13] <grepme> And they did that funniness with the keyboards
[20:13] <bcanon> Locate on a linux box?
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[20:13] <grepme> where's my NUM PAD
[20:13] <bcanon> Run updatedb first as root.
[20:14] <grepme> its a free 'hidden' option
[20:14] <grepme> *frowns* at mac
[20:14] <OldMike> Locate is just a plain command ?
[20:14] <VidocRazor> I took your Num Pad, Grep.... I will mail it back, though... :P
[20:14] <OldMike> I'm writing
[20:14] <grepme> lol
[20:15] <bcanon> Yeah. You have to run "updatedb" to index the filesystem into a searchable db
[20:15] <OldMike> I got Mepis 8.0.0 and downloaded csh
[20:15] <Tex_Arcana> I find if I stick the file I want to open in my home file I don't have to go searching for it. I can run it from term automatically.
[20:15] <bcanon> Then you can run "locate *.sh" or whatever arguments you want to pass it.
[20:15] <USSROVER> Grepme Frowning @ mac what about WINBLOWS !!!! :) lol
[20:15] <grepme> they have the mini data center
[20:16] <OldMike> I'll try that bc next time I got time to get frustrated
[20:16] <VidocRazor> Wait... Winblows? Is that made by Microslop?
[20:16] <grepme> mini co lo or some thing
[20:16] <OldMike> The program is fron a German firm, Medusa
[20:17] <OldMike> The file downloaded to my home folder but maybe I just entered the path wrong.
[20:17] <Tex_Arcana> Medusa? Sounds like subsidiary of SMERSH.
[20:17] <OldMike> AutoCad 2009 4 grand, Medusa free
[20:18] <Th_Dctr> Right click the file, go to permissions and change to make it executable. Then double click the file and it will install.
[20:18] <OldMike> i'm at the point I am going to go out and get a couple plastic triangles and a T-square and draw some stuff up.
[20:18] <Donovan> 2010 is right around the door, mike
[20:18] <Th_Dctr> properties, then permissions
[20:18] <USSROVER> mean trick set up 3 + routers together ( ringed ) no security but passworded and not connected to (internet )network
[20:18] <Donovan> i'm an unprofessional cadgeek
[20:19] <OldMike> I'll try that Dctr. Thanks. But not toight. I'm relaxed and don't want to get frustrated efore dinner and rest
[20:19] <Th_Dctr> But think how good you would sleep with success.
[20:20] <USSROVER> last transfer finished :) data back up ( quick +$50.00 )
[20:20] <VidocRazor> Or how little you will sleep until you have success!
[20:20] <OldMike> AutoDesk is as nasty as Microsoft with their pricing.
[20:20] <USSROVER> OldMike true
[20:20] <Th_Dctr> Unless you use the torrent version...
[20:20] <Donovan> how so mike?
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[20:21] <Donovan> dctr, i really, really don't need to know that
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[20:21] <OldMike> They have a subscription model that is pricey as heck and somehow you have to register it over the net to really get it get it to work.
[20:22] <Donovan> yea, the activations, you have to do it online, or over the phone, its just as annoying for a reseller
[20:22] <OldMike> I got a couple versions, 2000 and 2002 that work okay on Linux in Wine but I wanted a pure Linux version and Medusa is legal
[20:22] <Anonymous> Hi All
[20:22] <VidocRazor> Hi Anonymous
[20:22] <Tex_Arcana> Hmmmm, I have an MSI computer I bought at MadTux for $150 last year.
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[20:23] <Th_Dctr> What you really want is Autodesk 3ds Max Design Suite 2009 DVD.
[20:23] <Donovan> depends on what you do dctr, I run Inventor
[20:23] <VidocRazor> Speaking of Sony: <WARNING NOT WORK OR FAMILY FRIENDLY>: http://www.theonion.com/content/video/sony_releases_new_stupid_piece_of
[20:23] <Th_Dctr> Only available on Demonoid.com.
[20:23] <OldMike> What are the registration jump throughs for that Dctr
[20:23] <Donovan> did i metion i work for a reseller mike?
[20:23] <Steve> question for groovehouse or anyone...
[20:24] <Th_Dctr> There is a plug in validation tool...
[20:24] <b3tafx> to the h-town geeks... anyone know where one could pick up a 12 pin header (male) locally??
[20:24] <OldMike> I checked that but there are plenty of good Linux 3d packages out there, Blender is a great one
[20:24] <Tex_Arcana> EPO?
[20:24] <VidocRazor> Frys has it last I saw on 45 Feeder
[20:24] <VidocRazor> THat was about 3 months ago
[20:25] <Donovan> Mike, what are you trying to do?
[20:25] <OldMike> I tried OpenOfficeDraw but it is for me very cumbersome and documentation is slim
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[20:25] <OldMike> 2D drafting D
[20:26] <Tex_Arcana> Use The GIMP. There's lots of resource help.
[20:26] <OldMike> Is GIMP dimensionable in it's drawings ?
[20:26] <Donovan> well, before you talk about torrenting a copy in front of a dealer, let me see if there's any linx 2d cad packages quick
[20:27] <OldMike> Q-CAD is out there D but it's documentation is slim also
[20:27] <Donovan> Also, 2010 is shipping soon, so if you want to upgrade and havea legal version, the next couple of months is a good time to do that
[20:27] <Donovan> mike, i left 2d myself
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[20:27] <Tex_Arcana> Probably not. I just make pretty pictures with it.
[20:27] <OldMike> Google SketchUp is good but I haven't ben able to get it to work in Wine
[20:27] <kd5> JayLee, what's a good digital camera with GPS tagging?
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[20:28] <OldMike> I wonder what AC 2010 will cost
[20:28] <Donovan> no idea yet, mike, i haven't seen prices, do yo uhave an older copy?
[20:29] <USSROVER> kd5 http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&num=20&q=digital+camera+with+GPS+tagging&btnG=Search
[20:29] <Donovan> I know that t hey're adding parametrics, like in Inventor to ACAD now
[20:29] <Kojo> Who's coming to the Geek Gathering Friday? Who has an iPhone?
[20:29] <OldMike> I've got 2000 and 2002
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[20:29] <Donovan> you can still get an upgrade off 2002 cheaper then outright
[20:29] <Kojo> I just got a refurbed iPhone, so I'm looking for tips! :-D
[20:29] <grepme> i might be there, I have an iphone
[20:29] <Kojo> kd5!
[20:30] <kd5> USSROVER - thanks, but don't want a list of what's available, want a recommendation from a photog who's opinion i trust
[20:30] <OldMike> I may just stick with an old TurboCad Design V5 in Wine. I got some good documentation w/it.
[20:30] <kd5> Kojo!
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[20:31] <USSROVER> kd5 that is how I look I READ and read and read
[20:31] <USSROVER> :)
[20:31] <Tex_Arcana> I think my web host has been under attack all this afternoon. Kept getting sql messages like "too many connections", Barely updated Drupal on my website: http://eclectic-relic.izfree.com/
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[20:31] <USSROVER> have to run have a nite job to do
[20:31] <Donovan> mike, if you want to drop some cash you can go to nx, or catia
[20:31] <USSROVER> later all
[20:32] <VidocRazor> Laters
[20:32] <Xx86> Man this irc client for the iPhone is cool
[20:32] <Donovan> but i doubt that's waht you want
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[20:32] <Tex_Arcana> Bye
[20:32] <OldMike> NX ?
[20:32] <Th_Dctr> Or you can use REVO as an uninstall tool that will search out the registry files and give you a chanch to eliminate them.
[20:33] <Th_Dctr> http://www.revouninstaller.com/
[20:33] <VidocRazor> That's right - and us Data FOrensics folks love Apple for that fact!
[20:33] <OldMike> I can't imagine the learning curve on CATIA
[20:33] <Donovan> sorry siemens unigraphics nx
[20:33] * JayLee sets mode: +o groovehouse
[20:34] <Xx86> Half way to collegestation streaming and Irving
[20:34] <OldMike> I'll fiddle some more with Medusa, some more with Turbo CAD, or maybe load 2002 and spend the large amount of time to get up to speed.
[20:35] <Phlogiston2323121> Anyone going to see Watchmen Friday??
[20:35] <Th_Dctr> Already saw it.
[20:35] <kd5> driving to dallas friday
[20:35] <Xx86> Rabbit
[20:35] <VidocRazor> Dunno, Phlog - I was interested, but I have heard some not so good reviews...
[20:36] <Tex_Arcana> Working Friday. It's a requirment that I work on GG nights.
[20:36] <Phlogiston2323121> What drives me crazy is when someone breaks the wireless toggle switch
[20:37] <Th_Dctr> If you liked the graphic novel, I don't think you will like the movie.
[20:37] <Phlogiston2323121> Ever seen the LED Apple shirt that iJustine was wearing
[20:38] <VidocRazor> Oh my... Ineed an adult... I need an adult!
[20:38] <Phlogiston2323121> three words caller, GOD HELP YOU CALLER
[20:39] <slacker> hhmmm....considering making a "wanna cyber?" shirt now
[20:40] <Xx86> DSL
[20:40] <VidocRazor> Wait - another dude wandering around without pants?
[20:40] <Phlogiston2323121> What is with the stopwatch sounds in the background??
[20:41] <VidocRazor> So does OSX 10.5 :P
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[20:41] <drach> dang, just missed OM, oh well, 'allo all!
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[20:42] <VidocRazor> Hey there, Drach
[20:42] <Xx86> Bridge mode
[20:42] <drach> wow, lots of regulars don't seem to be around
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[20:42] <drach> slow night tonight?
[20:42] <drach> full moon?
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[20:43] <drach> Hey!!! there he is, 'allo OM
[20:43] <Xx86> Easy just a checkmark
[20:43] * drach feels very hyper atm, idk y tho
[20:43] <OldMike> Chat went dead
[20:44] <VidocRazor> Yeah - I have that effect on chat :P
[20:44] <Tex_Arcana> Seems fine to me.
[20:44] <drach> nah, he booted right as I came in, figure it's me... :-p
[20:44] <MarkMatsusaki> another case of 'letmegooglethatforyou.com'
[20:44] <OldMike> Another royalty check for Google
[20:44] <drach> anybody on here do Exchange dev?
[20:46] <slacker> i just barely started doing some exchange stuff. *sigh*
[20:46] <OldMike> D.BCooper lives
[20:46] <drach> trying to figure out Sink scripting
[20:46] <VidocRazor> Good - cuz he owes me money
[20:46] <VidocRazor> ... and a parachute
[20:46] <drach> not wanting to break out the C# studio
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[20:46] <OldMike> He's in Portland
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[20:50] <Donovan> it's blood ninja
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[20:51] <Donovan> He takes off his robe and wizard hat
[20:52] <OldMike> Lemon supply approaching critical
[20:52] <Phlogiston2323121> That sounded familiar Phliktid, saw that on www.doingitwrong.com
[20:52] <MarkMatsusaki> http://shop.cafepress.com/wanna-cyber
[20:52] <MarkMatsusaki> ! ASL !
[20:52] <Phlogiston2323121> hand the $600 here
[20:53] <VidocRazor> Eww! A Wanna Cyber THong!
[20:53] <OldMike> try Ascendtech for cheap computers
[20:53] <VidocRazor> Oh wait... that's for the Ladees... :P
[20:54] <Phlogiston2323121> Check this awful this Ferrari: http://www.doingitwrong.com/wrong/20070607-114722.jpg
[20:54] <Phlogiston2323121> Buy Alienware now caller
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[20:55] <Phlogiston2323121> http://shop.cafepress.com/content/marketplace/img/search/trans.gif
[20:55] <OldMike> Go AMD Quad-core
[20:55] <MarkMatsusaki> sounds like time for a reload
[20:56] <Xx86> He needs to cyber both pc's together to get a good of
[20:56] <Phlogiston2323121> Shooting in ROOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[20:56] <slacker> phlog: trans.gif?
[20:57] <Xx86> Sisboomraw
[20:57] <Phlogiston2323121> oooppsssss
[20:58] <drach> wow you two need to go back to 1994...
[20:58] <OldMike> 1984
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[21:00] <deboisblanc> this guy is into video editing, maybe a customized cpu would be a good thing, r a mac
[21:00] <VidocRazor> I am not a MS Windows user, but I have heard good things about MS Windows 7
[21:00] <Phlogiston2323121> Betas are betas caller, remember that fact
[21:00] <Tex_Arcana> A bunch of PS3's hooked up together.
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[21:01] <MarkMatsusaki> LOL !
[21:01] <Tex_Arcana> Yeah, bet you heard a lot of good things about Vista at one time too.
[21:02] <Donovan> maybe he wants to have a computer to use when the other one is rendering?
[21:02] <drach> That's what I think we were all thinking Don... ;)
[21:02] <OldMike> How close to the thong do you have to be to read it ?
[21:03] <drach> OM, wrong ? - "Can I read it after you've washed it and before you try to wear it again?"
[21:03] <Donovan> sorry, just got back, but it's what I do
[21:03] <Tex_Arcana> Depends on if your looking at the front or back graphic on that thong.
[21:03] <OldMike> X-ray eyes
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[21:04] <OldMike> I'm right handed so I always push'em to the left.
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[21:07] <VidocRazor> Theme for Dwight..... Shaft Theme song?
[21:08] <VidocRazor> Can you dig it?
[21:08] <Tex_Arcana> That Dwight, I hear he's a real moth...
[21:08] <VidocRazor> SHut yo' mouth!
[21:08] <drach> hey whatchyo mouf
[21:09] <Tex_Arcana> Just talkin' bout Dwight.
[21:09] <VidocRazor> Who's the cat that won't cop out when there's danger about?
[21:09] <VidocRazor> Dwight!
[21:10] <bcanon> lol
[21:10] <Phlogiston2323121> How many have read Watchmen??
[21:11] <Phlogiston2323121> Last known good backup
[21:11] <Phlogiston2323121> ??
[21:11] * drach squirms under the eyes of the radio hosts...
[21:11] <Tex_Arcana> I read this when it was a series in Heavy Metal magazine. http://www.texarcana.com/
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[21:12] <MarkMatsusaki> Shut Your MOUTH !
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[21:13] <Phlogiston2323121> This week in Twits??
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[21:13] <drach> who sets up a raid but doesn't understand how to use them?
[21:13] <drach> intriguing
[21:13] <MarkMatsusaki> RAID zero . . one .. five ..
[21:13] <MarkMatsusaki> who does RAID at home any more ?
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[21:14] <Phlogiston2323121> RAID 50
[21:14] <VidocRazor> Raid Zero - really a raid or not... talk amongst yourselves....
[21:14] <MarkMatsusaki> intel raid ?
[21:14] <MarkMatsusaki> err Intel MB ?
[21:14] <Donovan> it's the raid i want, vidoc
[21:14] <Phlogiston2323121> Would Leo be pissed about this: www.twith.com/
[21:15] * drach - Now see here Drach, RAID 0 must be a raid setup, it's defined as the most basic
[21:15] * drach - But Drach, it can't be, it's not doing anything...
[21:15] * drach <.<
[21:15] * drach >.>
[21:15] <Phlogiston2323121> RAID TO KILL VARMENTS in the system
[21:15] * KojoStudying has read The Watchmen
[21:15] * MarkMatsusaki Scratches his Head
[21:16] <KojoStudying> Shouldn't the caller just get a Drobo?
[21:16] <KojoStudying> "Put all of your stuff on a Drooo-booo!" :-D
[21:16] <slacker> raid still stripes though. not sure redundant is accurate though.
[21:16] <drach> no, raid 0 stripes, meaning it uses an array structure to manipulate and store the data
[21:16] <Phlogiston2323121> WTF is this: http://lolatmccain.com/
[21:17] <MarkMatsusaki> I use Mozy.com
[21:17] <drach> raid 1 mirrors, meaning it uses a binary configuration, which is just a simple array
[21:17] <MarkMatsusaki> 2GB of free automated backup
[21:17] <drach> ;-)
[21:17] <Anonymous> Caller is thinking of going Drobo or Buffalo NAS
[21:18] * KojoStudying is listening to the stream...is a bit behind.
[21:18] <Donovan> would do raid 0, or 0+1 on a desktop, if I had a server for file storage
[21:19] <drach> nah, raid6 is the way to go
[21:19] <Anonymous> That is the problem I have been having a software based issue.
[21:19] <drach> raid 5 but two levels of redundancy
[21:19] <drach> for home raid
[21:19] <drach> for home raid
[21:19] <drach> see HP home servers
[21:19] <VidocRazor> I would only use Raid0 if data speed but not loss was the issue...
[21:20] <KojoStudying> "Put all of your stuff on a Drooo-booo!" :-D I LOVE that jingle! :-)
[21:20] <Anonymous> Drobo or Buffalo
[21:20] <MarkMatsusaki> ! mozy.com !
[21:21] <Phlogiston2323121> I have Norton Ghost, or Acronis
[21:21] <VidocRazor> Time Machine = Good wine, lazy summer evening and Jimi Hendrix LIttle Wing....
[21:21] * deboisblanc (Anonymous@moo-D5B8FA.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) Quit (deboisblanc)
[21:21] <drach> absolutely raid is not backup
[21:21] <drach> hell it's barely enough to keep up
[21:22] <MarkMatsusaki> I think that's a good point.
[21:22] * Anonymous (Anonymous@moo-6C0B9118.dsl.amrltx.swbell.net) Quit (Anonymous)
[21:22] <MarkMatsusaki> RAID isn't about backup
[21:22] <MarkMatsusaki> it's about Fault Tolerance
[21:22] <VidocRazor> *agree @ Mark*
[21:23] <MarkMatsusaki> if you're an average user - a good backup will save you - way faster than RAID
[21:23] <drach> thankee to the hosts... and HP "does raid"
[21:23] <drach> thankee to the hosts... and HP "does raid"
[21:23] <drach> thankee to the hosts... and HP "does raid"
[21:23] <drach> ;-)
[21:24] <VidocRazor> Drach - does HP "do raid"? :P
[21:25] <drach> wanted to hit the thankee to the hosts multiple times, but the up arrow and enter is faster ;)
[21:25] * Donovan (Anonymous@moo-1A5027D8.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) Quit (Donovan)
[21:25] <drach> oh no, who would get off on a tangent around here?
[21:26] <MarkMatsusaki> LOL @ Drach
[21:26] <drach> 5gb?
[21:26] <drach> did i hear that right?
[21:26] <slacker> redundant array of inexpensive disks was the old one, right?
[21:27] <MarkMatsusaki> 5GB of ram ? on a Mac ?
[21:27] <VidocRazor> hrrm - is my stream lagging - does that happen often?
[21:27] <slacker> cuz at the time bigger disks were prohibitively expensive
[21:27] <MarkMatsusaki> DSL modem through Cable ?
[21:27] <VidocRazor> You guys saw that 5Gb a good minute before I he said it
[21:28] <drach> @vidoc, always
[21:28] <MarkMatsusaki> everybody using it ?
[21:28] <slacker> a min of lag isn't too rare over inernet stream
[21:28] <MarkMatsusaki> everybody using it ?
[21:28] <MarkMatsusaki> sounds like it's not his
[21:28] <Phlogiston2323121> www.speakeasy.net
[21:28] <Tex_Arcana> Cranberry juice is good for a lagging stream.
[21:28] <VidocRazor> lol @ Tex
[21:28] <drach> @slacker, when was it ever not redundant array?
[21:28] <OldMike> Viagrcran ?
[21:28] <Phlogiston2323121> http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
[21:29] <OldMike> Cran agra
[21:29] <slacker> no, i think the "i" changed. from "inexpensive" to "independent"
[21:29] <drach> oh, well that's just crap
[21:29] <drach> they're always dependent on each other, except maybe 1
[21:29] <VidocRazor> According to Wiki Inexpensive=1987, Independent = modern
[21:30] <drach> well let me fix that for you :-D
[21:30] <Phlogiston2323121> could have long term OS corruption
[21:30] <slacker> i think it changed in the mid or late 90's?
[21:31] <Phlogiston2323121> POE
[21:31] * drach realizes that this is a religious debate, so the page is locked
[21:31] <VidocRazor> ha!
[21:31] <Phlogiston2323121> Ethernet over Power
[21:31] <MarkMatsusaki> That' stuff will KILL a computer QUICKLY !
[21:31] <Phlogiston2323121> my results: Last Result:
[21:31] <Phlogiston2323121> Download Speed: 12855 kbps (1606.9 KB/sec transfer rate)
[21:31] <Phlogiston2323121> Upload Speed: 2343 kbps (292.9 KB/sec transfer rate)
[21:32] <bcanon> Nice downstream - what are you on?
[21:32] <MarkMatsusaki> Frankenstein config
[21:32] <KojoStudying> iFrogz is having a sale on their iPhone cases! http://ifrogz.com/products.php?cat=438&wrap_overlay=4538|IP3GClearTop
[21:32] <OldMike> Good luck, that is what the says when I buy a losing lotto ticket
[21:32] <KojoStudying> 35% off. Just an FYI. I NEED a case.
[21:33] <VidocRazor> Callers are all out cybering thanks to you guys....
[21:33] <Phlogiston2323121> I had a guy called a Mac fan I know a dickhead
[21:33] <KojoStudying> David Herrold suggested them to me.
[21:33] <bcanon> Or signing up for FaceBook.
[21:33] <bcanon> 25 mil new members last month, the majority over 35.
[21:33] <Phlogiston2323121> Wipe the old cooling grease
[21:33] <VidocRazor> and likely male.....
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[21:34] <KojoStudying> bcanon, doesn't Facebook now p0wn all your bases?
[21:34] <MarkMatsusaki> OUCH
[21:34] * Anonymous is now known as deboisblanc
[21:34] * drach speakeasy :( T1 slow tonight 1433D 1448U
[21:34] <VidocRazor> All your base are belong to Twitter... *cough*
[21:34] <bcanon> Pretty much - 1 month anniversary this Friday
[21:34] <deboisblanc> i hear laughing on air!
[21:34] <deboisblanc> lol
[21:34] <Phlogiston2323121> Would you get this for your geek girlfriend: http://shop.cafepress.com/design/2002777
[21:34] <VidocRazor> Thats the "voices" again, debois - ignore them.... therein lies sadness....
[21:36] <Phlogiston2323121> or get this for the wife: http://clothing.cafepress.com/item/cutie-pi-classic-thong/28347269
[21:36] <Phlogiston2323121> From the Designer Cute Pi. For the female math nerd or teacher. Great for PI day, March 14th.
[21:37] <VidocRazor> <Insert "PI" joke here> *cough*
[21:37] <bcanon> I was trying not to....
[21:37] <VidocRazor> I know... I went right up to the edge and stopped
[21:38] <VidocRazor> I am unwilling to take that any further...
[21:38] <Phlogiston2323121> what about this: http://clothing.cafepress.com/item/usmc-drill-this-classic-thong/7406880
[21:38] <Tex_Arcana> T-shirt nd matching thong. <perverted smilie>
[21:39] <VidocRazor> Are any of you on Twitter and want to divulge your username for followers?
[21:39] <Tex_Arcana> @Tex_Arcana
[21:39] <slacker> @phliktid
[21:40] <slacker> and i've never tweeted once.
[21:40] <OldMike> Take the hard ddrive and dump it in another machine
[21:41] <VidocRazor> Wow - you aren't kidding! No updates at all :)
[21:41] <slacker> 1:59am/pm on march 14th
[21:41] <Tex_Arcana> Who is your most prolific tweeter? For me it's Dwight and Lance Armstrong. Those two guys fill a lot space on my TweetDeck.
[21:41] <VidocRazor> ANd STILL 27 followers.. lol
[21:41] <slacker> i'm like silent bob
[21:41] <VidocRazor> hehe
[21:41] <Yivit> I'm not very chatty at all. @yivit
[21:41] <OldMike> Yeah, advice on how someone else should handle their wife.
[21:42] <VidocRazor> Got all of you locked and loaded. I am @vidocrazor
[21:42] <marc1919> @marc1919
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[21:45] <drach> twitter?
[21:45] <Tex_Arcana> What's weird about twitter is when you mention someone in passing just once and suddenly they are following you.
[21:45] <drach> what is this twitter of what you speak?
[21:46] * drach rumbles over his incantations and CLI specifications and can find no info entries for "twitter"
[21:46] <VidocRazor> It is a messaging system that runs over a series of tubes, Drach. I forget the number, though....
[21:47] <drach> ahh, you guys just need a simple helper addon twitter 2> /dev/null ;)
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[21:47] <Tex_Arcana> Micro blogging for the none chatty.
[21:47] <Yivit> it's a small tube. more like a pipette, really. :)
[21:47] <drach> hahahaha
[21:47] <VidocRazor> lol
[21:47] <drach> pipette
[21:47] <Tex_Arcana> Wild Bill Gates?
[21:47] <OldMike> Switched to Webster Tarpliey on Jeff Rense for audio.
[21:47] <OldMike> Still here tho
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[21:49] <citizen> 1 million watts verically,1 million watts horizontally...reaching all planets of the Galactic Empire.
[21:49] <VidocRazor> Depending on who you are following, sometimes it can be more like cat /dev/random | twitter :P
[21:49] <OldMike> Converstion is about credit-default swaps
[21:49] <OldMike> Attention day traaders
[21:49] <citizen> thanks, Ellis
[21:50] <citizen> and Murdoch
[21:50] <OldMike> Collateral-debt instruments
[21:50] <slacker> that's not a "hola" that's a "ni how"
[21:51] <KojoStudying> night all!
[21:51] <VidocRazor> zhao shung hau
[21:51] * KojoStudying (kojoidriss@moo-6576768A.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) Quit (KojoStudying)
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[21:51] <Kojo> Zao shang hao?!?
[21:52] <VidocRazor> Yeah - that!
[21:52] * citizen (Anonymous@moo-DD04DECE.oplink.net) Quit (citizen)
[21:52] <VidocRazor> hen hao, ni ne?
[21:52] <VidocRazor> hehe - you have officially hit the limit of my Mandarin :P
[21:52] <Kojo> 我現在太忙了！
[21:52] <VidocRazor> and my Mandarain says "ouch"
[21:52] <drach> sorry guys, work beckons and I must away
[21:52] * drach (Anonymous@C0FB593D.404E834.E4BD2B88.IP) Quit (drach)
[21:53] <Kojo> Razor, "Zao shang hao" is "Good Morning"...
[21:53] <Kojo> Where are YOU?
[21:53] <VidocRazor> oops- I always get confused! :)
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[21:54] <Kojo> Wan shang hao is "Good Evening".
[21:54] <Kojo> Ok, I'm out. Night all!!
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[21:55] <bcanon> Good shoe, all. See everyone Friday!
[21:55] <VidocRazor> Night!
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[21:56] * Anonymous is now known as citizen
[21:57] <citizen> Ellis Deah: Jim Murdoch
[21:57] * citizen (Anonymous@moo-DD04DECE.oplink.net) Quit (citizen)
[21:57] <Yivit> have a great night. see you friday!
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